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This page is maintained by information from folks who groom and ride the trail system.  We try to be honest . Heck, we're snowmobilers too!

Got a complaint regarding trail conditions? We would like to hear them.  Keep in mind that we groom the maximum number of grooms that the DNR compensates for.  Most of our trail system is heavily traveled and can deteriorate under heavy traffic, or in conditions where there is no base.

Special Note - There is no snowmobiling in the town of Petoskey! They will ticket you....  Also - Please stay on trails.  "Stay on Trail" signs are there for a reason!  We could lose our leases.

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New Event at the Clubhouse! The local Relay for Life Chapter (Cancer Society) is opening the club each Saturday at 11 AM for Hot Dogs, Chili, and hot drinks. End time each week is expected to be variable, based on business, but they expect to be open until at least 3 PM. This event is intended as a fund raiser for the organization, as well as a service to snowmobilers. The Petoskey Snowmobile Club is providing the building at no cost to the group, and receives no compensation.

Gas is available for a suitable donation to the club, for snowmobilers running low.

 

TRAIL REPORT

February 26, 2004 - there is plenty of snow on the trail. Warm temps are packing down the base, big time. The trail will likely get soft during mid-day.

Best Time to Ride:

Anytime

Trail Issues:

None

Grooming Intervals:

Our groomers are out at least 6 times per week. The actual schedule changes, depending on trail loading. At a minimum, all trail sections are hit before, during, and after the weekend, with one weeknight optional, based on conditions.

Groomer Status:

Both machines are up and operational. Our grooming staff reports excellent conditions throughout the system. If you come across a groomer, be sure to get out of the way. Grooming machines cannot simply move off the trail to let snowmobiles pass. Don't forget to give them the "thumbs up". Our operators are all-volunteer, and are giving up a chunk of their nights sleep to provide you with a nice ride.

 

Groomers operate primarily at night. Keep a look out after dark.

Stay out of the open fields. There has been lots of logging along trails, along with trees down from major wind damage. Additionally, do not trespass! If you don't know that it's State land, keep out. Trespassing has lost many a trail State-wide.

Watch for sign vandals. Several trail systems in the area have had signs taken repeatedly (including ours). Of special note on our trail is the section on Springvale Road towards Springbrook. Fortunately, there hasn't been STOP or other safety signs taken.

The club is open for our Sunday Snowmobilers' Breakfasts. We are open 8 AM until Noon each Sunday in the season. We have a buffet breakfast will all the fixins (eggs, pancakes, biscuits and gravy, sausage and ham, potatoes, and beverage, etc... All for $5 !!!

The Following is a educational "thesis" on trail grooming, written by Tim Geer of DT's Westbrook Motel, of East Jordan (and a groomer operator for the Jordan Valley Trail System). I found it so good, I had to publish it. Thanks, Tim.

Grooming 101 –

When we groom we do it for several reasons.

1. Lock down the trail. To create a good durable base we need temps near 32 degrees and lots of good wet snow. Our goal is to get out there when there is very little or no traffic, generally overnight, and get a good compression of that wet snow. If it is too cold and the snow is too powdery we can't get that to happen. You have probably experienced this as a kid when you tried to make a snowman or snowball out of powdery snow. As you know it just results in a lump of power that stays powder. Yes, this process makes the trail flat but it only takes a couple of sleds to bring it back to an ungroomed state. Furthermore, all of the powder tends to get blown off the trail especially at curves and starting and stopping points. This is what we experienced this past week and weekend. So ideally we would groom overnight when temps as near 32 degrees, the trails are left alone for 3 to 6 hours after we've groomed, and during that time the temps drop. This turns the freshly groomed trail into a block of frozen snow that is very durable and stays put.

2. Push the cold into the ground. By running a 25 ton groomer over the trail we compress not just the snow but the ground underneath it. This pushes the cold deeper into the ground and freezes the ground much deeper than it would normally freeze. Under normal conditions the ground may freeze as much as 48 inches deep, but when we constantly push that cold deeper into the ground we can get the ground to freeze many feet more than that. This turns the trail into its own freezer. So on days when the temps are above 32 degrees, the ground can help fight the melting by releasing its cold back into the snow and help preserve the trail. This also helps firm up wet spots faster like the one that ate the groomer.

3. Knock down the bumps. I'm sure this reason is the most important to you all out there. A day of riding bumps can really put a damper on a weekend and I'm sure has made a lot of you reach for the Motrin like it has me many times. Once a good base is established, most of our grooming is for this reason alone. But until we get a good base we must be VERY careful as we can easily ruin a trail by overgrooming. There are two and sometimes three parts to a groomer. First there is the pre-groomer. This is a set of blades that comes before the tractor tracks and they are intended to knock down some of the severe bumps so the tractor can travel smoothly and better flatten with the Lacross Drag. Secondly, on the front of the LaCross Drag there are another set of blades. This is where the real work takes place. These blades cut the tops off of the moguls and breaks the snow up so it can be smoothed and compressed. This brings us to the third and last part of the mechanical grooming process which is called panning. The pan is pretty much like it sounds. It is a flat heavy surface at the back of the groomer that takes the broken up snow and pushes it flat and compresses it tightly so it can become that durable hard frozen block of snow that I mentioned earlier. I know a lot of you have asked "why aren't they grooming more often?" If we don't have a lot of snow to work with all we can do is panning. If we drop the blades without sufficient snow we can bring up dirt. This obviously discolors the snow and leaves it vulnerable to sunlight. As with anything, the darker it is the more it absorbs light and in the case of snow, causes it to melt faster. This is why the first several grooms are done with only the pan and don't always get all of the bumps out. So it not a case of our slacking off, or the groomer not doing a good job, it is simply doing what we can to get a good base that will last the entire season. It reminds me of the groomer that taught me how to groom. Gary always told me "We can make it flat and rideable for three days and then it will melt or we can leave it a little bumpy and it will last for 3 weeks or more!"

4. Keeping riders on the trail. If the trail is full of moguls you might be tempted to jump off of it and ride next to it or take another path altogether. This is fine until you ride over a tree plantation or somewhere else that pisses off a private land owner. Many of you may not know this, but much of the land that you assume is state land is private property. The Jordan Valley Trails Council like all other clubs and councils spend many, many hours trying to get landowners to allow us to use their land for snowmobile trails. This process becomes very difficult when yahoos disrespect these very lands and ride anywhere they please. I guarantee you that there has been a trail that you ride that has been either re-routed or closed because the landowner got sick and tired of sleds going where they are not permitted. So by keeping the trail flat we can get a better chance of keeping the sleds on that designated trail.

 

 

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